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19Grumpah42
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Re: Assigning user icon to title and task bar
« Reply #15 on: Nov 8th, 2009, 9:59pm » |
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OK, so I have tried out the SWP_NOACTIVATE version, and perhaps it is different, but it is still very easy to lose the MagGlass below a normal window.
In a simple situation where a normal window is dragged over MagGlass, and MagGlass disappears, it may be possible to get it back by <exactly 2x left-click> the title bar of the normal window, and it can be toggled up/down by repeating <exactly 2x left-click> (very non-conformal useage!). I have one app (it's a file backup utility) which never goes spuriously "on top", but when I try to drag its window under the MagGlass AND if it is the title bar of the normal app. which is contingent upon MagGlass, then MagGlass moves off ahead of the app window. Wierd! The workaround is just to drag MagGlass on top of it.
I don't much like these various "workarounds", they strike me as worthy of going in my not-so-sweet cookie jar labelled "devious tricks which work, sometimes".
Personally, I think an icon (your choice  ) in the icon tray with a <left-click> {send to top} and a <rt-click>{Hide}/{Show}(with implicit "on top"), would solve the users' problems with this obviously tricky Z-listing under Windows.
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Re: Assigning user icon to title and task bar
« Reply #16 on: Nov 9th, 2009, 08:29am » |
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Quote:| Personally, I think an icon (your choice ) in the icon tray with a <left-click> {send to top} and a <rt-click>{Hide}/{Show}(with implicit "on top"), would solve the users' problems with this obviously tricky Z-listing under Windows. |
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You keep repeating the same claim: that the effect you are experiencing is something normal for Windows. IT IS NOT. It is a fault on your particular system which you need to get fixed. It would be crazy for me to make a change to my software simply to workaround a problem unique (as far as I know) to you.
Please take the fault seriously, rather than blaming Windows. I have asked a question on microsoft.public.win32.programmer.ui but so far nobody has come up with any suggestion as to the possible cause.
Have you tried re-installing Windows? Have you checked whether there are any later graphics drivers for your PC?
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Re: Assigning user icon to title and task bar
« Reply #17 on: Nov 9th, 2009, 5:20pm » |
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Thanks for your analysis and concern. It's no fun being an exception, is it?  I will take your recommendation to re-install XPsp3 as sound advice but I won't be doing it any time soon, it's less than two months since the last mandatory re-install and it takes me for ever on this heavily loaded machine. I did a Registry Restore just two days ago.
Anyway, thanks for providing MagGlass, it's a really neat app.
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Re: Assigning user icon to title and task bar
« Reply #18 on: Nov 9th, 2009, 5:22pm » |
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For some reason, your latest reply did not show until after I sent mine. I wholly agree that your code should not be changed to suit some aberrant installation!
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Re: Assigning user icon to title and task bar
« Reply #19 on: Nov 9th, 2009, 5:56pm » |
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Well, I have just tried MagGlass on my other Win-XP mahine, and I get the same bizarre results. So my problem is not with a particular system becoming corrupted, it's the software configuration which is incompatible with what Wn-XP requires of its Z-ordering routines. Both PCs have this in common [[ Win-XPsp3, EVGA(NVIDIA)9500 GT graphics card running in dual display mode]]. I am inclined to suspect a problem due to NVIDIA software, and will try to resolve that. For the most part my display drivers work just fine. I am running FP-intensive CUDA number crunchers on both cards with no errors.
I'm sorry that this all seems to be coming incidental to the main purpose of the forum.
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Re: Assigning user icon to title and task bar
« Reply #20 on: Nov 10th, 2009, 09:03am » |
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Quote:| Well, I have just tried MagGlass on my other Win-XP mahine, and I get the same bizarre results. |
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Incredible. The only response I've had from the Microsoft newsgroup is a suggestion that you might not have enabled the Always on Top option in Task Manager!
The only possible explanations I can offer are (1) a fault with the NVIDIA graphics drivers or (2) hallucination! Can you take and upload a screen snapshot irrefutably demonstrating the effect?
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Re: Assigning user icon to title and task bar
« Reply #21 on: Nov 10th, 2009, 09:34am » |
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Quote:| However there has been something of a recent trend for other group members to release only compiled executables (often encrypted) |
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I am guilty of doing that lately. At the moment it seems to be a bit easier for me to get a 'demo' going, compiling and upload. And I do press the encrypt option. I don't know why, i've tried translating compiled code from an exe before and it is a nightmare. Anyway, please don't think that I am trying to 'hide' code. Well, maybe I am a bit embarrassed by the inefficiency of it...
Sometimes it is also just for the efficiency of getting the demo out with a custom library file rather than uploading a bbc file and uploading the library files separately.
I will stop pressing the encrypt option!
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Re: Assigning user icon to title and task bar
« Reply #22 on: Nov 10th, 2009, 3:39pm » |
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Thanks for pursuing the windows group as a resource, Richard.
I had never visited the {Task Manager}{Applications}{Options} menu item before, but I note that MagGlass is clocking in as [always on Top] [Minimize on use][NOT hide when minimised]. I also note that some other running tasks were -- apparently randomly -- flagged [Always on Top] but in fact they do not behave that way. So, I query the functionality of this particular Windows setting.
I can make a a movie file showing (a) normal windows sliding |over| MagGlass, (b) normal windows "pushing" MagGlass in front of them. Perhaps I will do that when I have time.
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Re: Assigning user icon to title and task bar
« Reply #23 on: Nov 10th, 2009, 4:56pm » |
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Quote:| I had never visited the {Task Manager}{Applications}{Options} menu item before |
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A slight misunderstanding there, I think. The Options menu refers to Task Manager itself, not to the program selected in the Applications tab!
When Always On Top is ticked, it means that Task Manager is a topmost window.
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